I am a car and camper geek and I love both and spend a great deal of time on reading all about it. I agree with all of your plusses. A Detailed Review of the 2015 Leisure Travel Vans Serenity. Here’s a vote for the custom Promaster. Finally this week, they called me up and let me know that they had not just one on the lot, but two, and invited me to come down and take one for a test drive. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. No. if you claim you are getting “pretty darned good mileage”.. you should qualify what that means and then post what those mpg’s are. Are the batteries (with the roof solar panels) the only source of power? There’s more leg room and a wider bed area with the extra window ledge. You’ve totally upended my world and now I’m wondering if I could pull off the install of the bed lift. Major plusses by doing your own. If I do move forward to buy one, I will try that out for sure. They fit in the aisle if you put them face them in opposite directions. As far as the ProMaster shifting, yeah, it is kind of weird. They are really nice. Check Out The Ferrari SF90 Stradale Spider, Rezvani Hercules 6x6 Pickup Aims To Conquer Hennessey Mammoth 6x6, 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback Restomod Is A 800-HP Superstar, Watch A Self-Driving Tesla Navigate World's Windiest Road, 2022 Volkswagen Golf R Arrives With 315 HP And Manual Gearbox, We Drove The Land Rover Defender From James Bond's 'No Time To Die', Everything You Need To Know About The Nissan 400Z, Become A Better Driver With This Must-Have Gadget, 13 Future Electric Cars We Can't Wait To See, Why The 2021 Cadillac Escalade Is The Ultimate Fullsize SUV, 2020 Ram 1500 Test Drive Review: Trucking Has A New Benchmark, 2020 Ford F-150 Raptor Review: One-Of-A-Kind Off-Road Killer, 2020 Ford F-150 Review: The Firm Favorite, 2019 Ford F-150 Raptor Test Drive Review: Nothing Else Like It, © 2010-2020 CarBuzz Inc. All Rights Reserved. I just happened to be checking a ProMaster Diesel and ProMaster City (9-speed) for commercial delivery use. I will be a first time RV owner. I guess you have to sit down and look at the costs and you might need a Van auto body shop for help. If I do decide to build one, the wait for a diesel ProMaster is about 5 months, or so they tell me. That would open up lots more design possibilities…, Regarding the earlier RWD comment, there is a trade-off to every engineering solution. Roadtrek just released a new class B on a Dodge Ram Promaster. © 2018 VanLifePrep.com. Is this something you really want to try? The only info I can find on that one yet is Mike Wendland’s video. I get better gas mileage with a chevy 4.8l small block v8 in a full size truck than that v6. The video you’ll see above is the product of that test drive. It wasn’t raining, so I can’t say about the engine getting wet. Wife found nearest dealer for Rams in Cheyenne, paid $240 to have van towed because roadside assistance told me they would not cover a medium duty van, even though they towed a week earlier. http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/ProMaster.html. Required fields are marked *. Suffice it to say the cause of the cam gear slipping hasn't been confirmed, but there is speculation. I am a marine mechanic and boat builder. You got me! I lucked out and found one in Arizona with 81k miles for $22,500. Another German, Matt, warned you to use a Promaster (aka Fiat Ducato in Europe) because of its bad traction on wet or muddy roads and its less than ideal automated gearbox. There are 40 complaints filed for the 2015 RAM PROMASTER. But the problems that ail the ProMaster will not be solved by more ProMaster. It is a RAM. So far I haven’t had any issues with finding a gas station that has diesel, but being about 20-30 cents higher per gallon, it does hit the wallet. (We thought it was pretty expensive when we had our Sprinter. Let me know in the comments below. I’d try to go the second alternator route. I enjoy your videos. Offline. I’ll check out the site – mais je parle français seulement un petit peu – et très mal. I looked at the Challenger Vans you like. Interesting though. It’s feels as though it’s being shifted by a very slow-shifting person. (see: http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Major-Fiat-Peugeot-Citroen-problems-Reversing-judder/12560/). After doing some research with KBB, I was seeing that the overall drop in value as miles increased on the diesel, wasn’t significant, even when approaching 150,000 miles, and I knew from experience when shopping for my van, that demand is particularly high, so that actually made me feel a little better about my purchase. The Ducatos’ gearbox was said to have a design fault which led to many destroyed gearboxes! I agree about the benefits of a no-generator design. Chrysler had been kicking around the idea of offering two diesel engines for its half-ton Ram pickup since before 2007. http://www.rollerteam.it/index.cfm?method=mys.veicolo&id=531. Can't wait to hear what this dealer has to say. The only draw back is there is no bike storage in the back like the vans you find in Europe. (Personally, I found it hilarious that one of the first things they were talking about in their redesign were the “big cup holders”. They also expect the diesel to get mileage numbers in the mid to high 20’s so the 18 mpg estimate may be too conservative. I know when I fixed up my Triumph TR4A it was cheaper to buy one already fixed up then the costs to restore one. The other great feature of our van is the 400w solar array and the two AGM batteries that provide enough energy to run the two fridges and all the electrical needs without shore power, as long as the van is parked in an open area. ExpeditersOnline.com is the Internet's leading information and resource provider for the expedited transportation industry. Honestly, once I got used to it, The Smart Car automated manual transmission wasn’t that freaky. We’ve got an older Sprinter T1N 140 wheelbase conversion and the Promaster 159 appears to be the best replacement option that still fits our 20ft garage length. If you are interested in anything from Europe like floorplans, accessories, where to get which part, etc. I am wondering if vb1 is the same issue i am having with my promaster 1500 with an ecodiesel engine, and if any other promaster owners with the ecodiesel have had similar problems. You seem to like the European campers, I prefer the US versions (not the outdated interiors and the cheap junk brands though), but the huge tank capacities that you have. This seems to serve as the only real evidence against VM's design, but other users report simply that the high-pressure fuel pump side of the engine will start to slip its timing. Leisure Vans are my favorite but are expensive. This cam gear problem, if it is indeed a problem among all ecodiesel engines, is detrimental. If you do the math, most people would likely find that you don’t save as much as you might think by getting a diesel. But to add a diesel generator to the ProMaster would be interesting, because it sits so low. And yes – the window boxes do look strange. That Safari Condo Flex layout looks very efficient and they do offer it as a fixed bed option for simplicity. I especially liked the part where you tested the different tank flushing systems. At least the Smart Car drive prepared me for what to expect in the ProMaster diesel. There are many European manufacturers with the same idea in a floor plan. Lots of material there to go through. I did see the video on your new build – looks exciting, hope you enjoy it! I haven’t climbed any mountains with it yet though. I have talked to most of the Upfitters as well and find a wide range of offerings, philosophies, and prices. I was going to be able to unload one day earlier than was scheduled when my vans idiot lights starting going off near Vail Colorado. Sep 14, 2015 #1 I had my first load from Ann Arbor to Las Vegas. I had my first load from Ann Arbor to Las Vegas. I am an avid commuter and have put about 15k miles on my van in about 5 months, while Adam has put about 6k on his in 4 months. If you are a WordPress user with administrative privileges on this site, please enter your email address in the box below and click "Send". Anyways, I’m not too concerned about the FWD thing. Aggressive brakes should stop a motorhome quickly. I think if you consider your intended use you should not get disappointed. I’ve been looking for a class B RV van with a diesel that’s not a sprinter Mercedes and have been thinking to just build my own. We bought a gas ProMaster RV fitted by a Quebec company called Safari Condo. You must log in or register to reply here. There are 11 complaints filed for the 2016 RAM PROMASTER. I think we’d drive each other bonkers. I have been searching for a used Promaster camper conversion. Now you’ve got me thinking how I could incorporate a bed lift into a potential floor plan. The bed is surpisingly comfortable at a countertop height (34″) when the temperature is cooler. Ours has a plastic extension, so the bed is long enough (watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQuef1DcB2k). Once you get up to speed, the shift lag (that’s what I’m calling it) isn’t as noticeable. Also I found some links worth a review. 74 thoughts on “ Dodge Ram ProMaster Diesel – Driving Impressions ” Lesa Herrera June 23, 2019 at 4:14 pm. Just for kicks, we took a 59k to a bike race, and had two bikes inside. Several people are reporting violent shaking, as if they're losing control at legal freeway speeds. A black tank is something you only get on very expensive campers here. I know I need 40 inches underneath to accommodate any bike while only taking off the front wheel. That’s how I found your great site. It also looks like you could use it as an everyday vehicle. Dodge has not made any trucks or fullsize vans for many years, it was separated from Ram and they became totally different brands, just like how Chevrolet and Cadillac are separate. Anyway just a thought. With diesel fuel on board, I can use something like a Webasto or an Espar unit to provide furnace heat and hot water. California? According to the U.S Department of Energy, diesel motors are about 35% more efficient than gasoline. Even if you take it to the dealership, always notify Promaster so they can follow up with everything. Matt, are you still able to provide any of the European RV floor plans, I have a 2007 Sprinter 144″ WB and am looking to modify. Should I give up on the “RV establishment” and build my own? Adam in his gasoline van, is getting 15-17 mpg, but didn’t notice a big drop from when the van was empty to once it was fully built out. They use to mostly build on the Sprinter Chassis, but now they’re using the Promaster. 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But I couldn’t find a suitable furnace and water heater that ran on gasoline – hence the diesel. Wordfence is a security plugin installed on over 3 million WordPress sites.
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